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some audio clips of a psychic who is in

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communication with the ghost of Kurt

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Cobain now for everyone who doesn't know

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Kurt Cobain was a lead singer of a band

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called Nirvana they came to prominence

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in the early 90s and just exploded on

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the music scene in probably 91 92 only

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basically ruined music for a decade

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they certain twel they either hit Pearl

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Jam sound good

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they either I mean the room music for

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the 80s kind of hair metal bands they

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made them look stupid and dumb but for

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people like me young teenagers young

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teenagers like me it was a glorious time

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for music and being a kid and Nirvana

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was a soundtrack to a good chunk of my

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life I think they gave us Nickelback old

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I think you probably could make the

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connection sure but we're not gonna

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we're not gonna be Smerch the legacy of

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Kurt Cobain like that

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so anyways Kurt Cobain allegedly

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committed suicide in Seattle at his home

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in April of 2000 or of 1994 after that

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times a lot of speculation about how he

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died with let up let what led to

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circumstances was he murdered was he

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killed and I heard like me I don't ever

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recall coming across a clip of a psychic

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getting in contact with Kurt Cobain so

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I'd like to play use some segments of of

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this guy talking to who Kurt Cobain and

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I'll put the audio link up in the

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description of this video so you guys

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want to listen to the full half-hour of

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these guys talking one guy is kind of

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interviewing the other psychic who's

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you know it's fairly fascinating so this

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is uh

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dr. Rob spirits and the supernatural of

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the supernatural hosted by dr. Rob chiz

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nah there we go there's that's who we

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will hear talking here and this first

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clip that I have is related to Kurt

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Cobain so here we go and his death

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the first question for Kurt I'd like to

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ask them how did you die and was this a

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well when I touch in with him I

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definitely do not feel that this was a

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suicide I you know I get the sense that

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he was taken by surprise by his death it

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just gives me a sense of I'm listening

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to him now describe it to me and I

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believe that yes he was actually

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murdered

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and what reasons would someone have for

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killing you Kurt

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some money tells me it's about the money

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and that's what he keeps saying it's

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about the money it's about the money

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it's about the money I am asking him to

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be a more specific and he said that he

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was worth more dead than with and he was

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alive so in in the run up to Kurt

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Cobain's death there were speculations

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that Nirvana was gonna break up that

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Kurt Cobain was just gonna retire from

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the band and that mean that meant a

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severe loss in revenue to the band they

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like they were supposed to go on in play

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the 1994 Lollapalooza which would have

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netted them millions and millions and

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millions of dollars and I don't think

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Courtney Love wanted to see that happen

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I don't know if she's a murderer but she

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certainly isn't the most trustworthy

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person

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they were both addicts they both were

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addicted to heroin

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I've watched a lot of videos on Kurt

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Cobain in the conspiracy surrounding his

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death the way his body was found it

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certainly does seem as though that he

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didn't kill himself with the amount of

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drugs that were in his body the way that

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the shotgun was positioned and just the

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whole circumstances around the way his

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body was found is seemed like there was

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definitely some hanky-panky going on or

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someone found him dead and made it look

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like a suicide it's not straightforward

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yeah open up the phone lines because the

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people in the chat are already weighing

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in I think he killed himself anyone

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watched soaked in Bleach yeah I watched

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unleash the great yeah great movie

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yeah people in mmm excuse me I don't

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know enough about this one

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I definitely think Courtney Love is

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probably one of the least trustworthy

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folks in Hollywood before I get this

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next clip I will say this that I had a a

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former co-host on here Paul Paul Bearer

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he he's in his 50s maybe early 60s at

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this point and he was the drug dealer to

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the rock stars he had his own punk band

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tour around the country and you'd hook

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up and score drugs for people and he

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would also do them he told me of various

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stories of doing heroin with with

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Courtney Love or drugs with her many

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times and I think that he shot up with

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Kurt Cobain once or twice it was of his

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opinion that Kurt Cobain committed

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suicide because he was secretly gay

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that's his theory I I don't know about

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that but you know Kurt Cobain did have

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some bi sexual tendencies caller you're

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what did Courtney Love say to Kurt

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Cobain right before she shot him I don't

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know

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holes gonna be big

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that's not funny anymore oh my god how

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could you have done this that was

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actually pretty good I was I just gotta

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so in we know this voice that was John

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from Johannesburg that's right he hung

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up on us he's still on now he hung up oh

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yeah I would have him on

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this second clip is the psychic talking

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about the circumstances around the

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murder I will tell you this when we're

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talking about the murder he kept

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flashing Courtney Love's face to me and

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that was something that I was very

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surprised about did you ask about murder

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and I just kept seeing her face flashed

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in front of my in front of my screen

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that I haven't my head and I'm asking

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him now I'm like is she responsible for

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your murdering and he shakes his head

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yes he's very got a very adamant about

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that I know that's when I touch in with

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them he doesn't have any feelings of

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injustice here but he said it was all

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about the pani he said it wasn't just

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her there was a management team involved

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with this as well and he says that

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really was the management team that

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actually did the murder but Courtney was

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definitely a part of it and definitely

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knew what was coming down so there you

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go is a conspiracy to kill him I to me

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that's a little hard for me to swallow

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that a management team I don't know if

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they're in the business of taking out

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rock stars and celebrities that they

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would do this but you know I think there

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are some Hollywood gangsters out there

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definitely and I think if they they way

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out what generates more money maybe it

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is a little bit more advantageous to

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take out these these rock stars and

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singers than it is this to let him live

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and retire

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let me see well we're Houston I mean yep

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Whitney Houston Michael Jackson I'll

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tell you there is a trend a capitalist

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trend or when people in Hollywood

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especially in music or authors to some

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extent Hollywood celebrities as well but

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mostly in music when the artist dies

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they sell a boatload of records and when

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they make money off of it because

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whoever has the licensing rights it's

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like well we're gonna put the

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holographic this is where we are now

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we're gonna put the hologram up on the

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stage and then how much does that cost

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and who gets the money for that it's

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just phenomenal amounts of money because

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I remember just like maybe 10 years ago

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they were still fighting over some of

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the royalty rights that this is like

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Nerva select a bass player and gave girl

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the drummer of nirvana arguing in court

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with Curt Anil of what percentage they

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get from royalties and for what

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licensing and this kind of evolved like

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spawned up around the licensing for that

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game rock band and it could and also

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just licensing in music like I remember

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seeing some like I may be a mountain Dew

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commercial or some like that them using

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the song breed from Nirvana to do that

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which is something I'm sure Kurt Cobain

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would have been against he seemed like

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his ethics were were firmly in place

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when it comes to being a sellout from

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everything that I read thus far and

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listened to it seemed like he felt

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really guilty about the level of Fame

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that he had and even the the his ability

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to buy things when his friends that he

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grew up with were struggling and I you

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know the guy just he had he carried a

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lot of shame around him from everything

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that I read and he's like a lot of

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artists that I met and even probably

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like you and I Joe where you're

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extremely proud of the work that you do

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but at the same time you are very

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self-deprecating and don't think we

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deserve any attention that's right no I

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it's yeah you called him in yeah and and

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and if he was gay I mean he grew up at a

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time where him and I would have been

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about the same age I don't know how old

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he would have been right now but it

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probably would have been early 50s

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okay so it's so even worse than what we

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experienced but you know I mean my

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parents were not kind about the gay

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thing so if he was gay you know he would

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hide that and then that's like an extra

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level of shame and then the duplicity

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that adds up and the layers that it's

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it's to bring it into a more funny

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territory it's like Costanza on Seinfeld

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where the lies they just kind of add up

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and you have to at some point it's like

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you just get buried under your own lies

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so you could see him killing himself but

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you could also see that like hey this

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guy's super talented but he's a real

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pain in the ass so yeah you know I mean

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like I could see it going either way I

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love the idea that he was either

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murdered for profit post suicide

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supposedly or I could see him just being

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kind of over it you know okay I'm gonna

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see if I can play a little bit of this

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clip that we did is this is titled obdam

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four three four doing heroin with Kurt

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Cobain so this is from 2015 and see if I

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can find a place where where Paul's

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talking about this thank you I got high

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enough I could you know he could have

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heroin Kurt Cobain mm-hmm all right when

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was this well I mean because your

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limitations is already up Paul's dead

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that's I mean like when I was in Seattle

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a couple times in LA that's where that's

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not when this was before he really was

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like I mean right after never mind like

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they were doing this rock for choice

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benefit sure and like l7 did a lot of

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them with their vol 7 currently good

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friends with l7 and you know I used with

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them too yes that's how we became

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friends yeah I remember asking Kurt

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Cobain

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how much heroin do you do every day oh

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that's easy $400 worth um like she's

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like that's all I can get out of the

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money machine every day because he

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couldn't even get up and time together

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the back I think he has biggest problem

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most he was queer and just couldn't you

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know turn the grips of that do you think

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I think I got high enough I could you

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know he could have tried to suck my dick

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sure there you go

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I'll put the four that in description

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run a list that's a full ten minute clip

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he also I mean Paul had some stories

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about hanging out with L do che from the

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mentors where that was the band the lead

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singer suggested that Courtney Love

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approached him to take out Kurt Cobain

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for $50,000

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so a lot of interesting stuff I mean

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that's a pretty good deal I'd do it yeah

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I mean no I would not do it that's

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$50,000 is not enough to kill a person

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who would do that

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you probably need a maybe it just a

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little bit more than that to do that I

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don't I tell you what I'll give you

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$14,000 lowball on an assassination

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you're really like going the wrong

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direction here I'll give you $10,000

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okay now we're not even gonna try

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anymore going down

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we got a one more clip concerning Kurt

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Cobain and the psychic and this is about

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Kurt Cobain haunting people and he

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actually says that he comes to her and

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she doesn't see it as a blessing she

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sees it as I'm haunting her and she's

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actually had a lot of breakdowns from

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using so many drugs over the over the

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years that she still has this paranoia

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that he's gonna come get her and hurt

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her and he never he said to me he never

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hurt her when he was alive and why would

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she think that now that he's dead you

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know and she always says he says to me

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that she always accused him of all kinds

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of things when he was alive and that

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none of them were ever true you know and

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it was her way of they can help deal bad

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about himself so that she could really

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control him you know when I look ahead

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for her he says that the only reason why

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she has anything is because his music is

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still doing so well you know it's all

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about the money and she was supposed to

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save a lot of bad for Francis and he

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says that she spent a lot of that money

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that she was supposed to go towards her

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daughter she actually spent so he's not

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very happy about that but he says that

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for the Kourtney there are other people

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that have stepped in the middle of that

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situation have now solved that problem

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and that his daughter will be taken care

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of so that makes it very happy so this

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this clip this this psychic reading here

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is from 2012 and I have a story that is

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I'll bring up on them on the main screen

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which is titled Courtney Love reveals

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she was visited by Kurt Cobain's ghost

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and this is from 2019 just earlier this

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year in June and the wife of late

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Nirvana rocker says she once met Kurt

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Cobain's ghost and his bare spirits

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poked her briefly while sitting in a

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chair

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54 year-old rocker was married to delete

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Nirvana frontman from 1993 to 94 when he

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tragically lost his life to suicide at

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age 27 now the whole singer has claimed

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she saw Cobain again from beyond the

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grave and he said hi to her before

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departing

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love took part in a QA for a QA for

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Interview magazine the rocker was asked

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20 questions by a variety of stars from

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Marilyn Manson to win Paltrow there

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anybody ask her if she killed Kurt

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Cobain I guess that maybe wasn't part of

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are the QA

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asked by quina Paltrow how grief has

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shaped her life you said there are these

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stages in buddhism hell hunger animality

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anger all anyone wants is a proper

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service proper burial all that stuff but

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it's really hard to deal with

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emotionally with Curt's estate you have

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to be ruthless I have a kid there are

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still like 12 your lawyers in Washington

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12 lawyers in California and like six

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lawyers in New York it's insane

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I mean okay it's too

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being visited by

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there we go

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that's gotta be it's gonna be crappy

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let's kinda say I mean really put your

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mind in a bit of a funk there if you are

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responsible for someone's death and

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they're haunting you you can't get any

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sleep after that there's no way there's

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no way you can get sleep after that yeah

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I would think that it's it's the feeling

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in the haunt of whatever complicity you

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might have had whether or not she was a

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pain in the ass and drove him to kill

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himself or whether or not she paid

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somebody doesn't matter like I'm sure

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she had some role in it because she

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seems like a pain in the ass yeah and so

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that ghost may take many forms and so

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whatever form it manifests itself and

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she probably deserves it

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uh yeah I mean I've from all the counts

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that I read she was a really a real big

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pain in the ass and definitely if he if

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he committed suicide maybe he was driven

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to it by her constant yeah my ex-husband

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what a [\h__\h] [\h__\h] like just

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honestly like psychiatric [\h__\h] levels

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of like are like I feel like I'm being a

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good person why are you still such an

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[\h__\h] to me like like I just don't

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understand like how it's like I think

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Kurt Cobain seemed like a kind dude he

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seemed like a nice guy

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by all accounts he definitely seemed to

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try to help out the people that were

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around him like the bands that he came

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up with and really liked he tried to

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bring him out on tour he tried to spread

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the wealth as much as he possibly could

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by uh by exposure through gigs and just

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mentioning the the people that he really

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loved by either making his own t-shirts

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or mention him in interviews he felt no

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I felt guilty by his own success I mean

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that's the kind of person who is like oh

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dude like it is hard it's hard I mean

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you know this I know this I know a lot

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of artists who know this it's like no

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celebrate the fact that you're actually

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really good don't get a [\h__\h] ego

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about it you know but like don't hide

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the fact that you're talented like your

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there are certain things that you're

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gonna have to accept right now that's

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tough that's itami Nessa that's a that's

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a whole therapy thing of accepting

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success and accolades it's something

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definitely I struggle even when people

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compliment me on the most innocuous

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thing for the longest time I would be

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very shy about it not take it they could

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they said Mike good job tying your shoe

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and I'd be like out whatever I really

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didn't do that good of a job tying my

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shoe and I it's one of those things

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where I just I have to be better at just

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thanking somebody and moving on cuz I

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it's weird I I obviously I want

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attention I create art I do I do a

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podcast they put myself out to the world

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but I don't want too much attention you

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know I don't want it I don't want the

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full spotlight on me I get it it's it's

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it's

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the chicken with the longest neck you

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know is the one that's gonna be barbecue

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tonight oh absolutely you gotta watch

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off those chicken people they're

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everywhere

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knock on your will knock on your door

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I'll just say like the more you you your

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visible the I care over the target is

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what they say that's a it's a whole

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bunch of chickens up there flying b-2

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bombers pilot drama nearby beer bombs

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